Star Wars Revenge of the Sith (good or bad)

itisitex · Forum Member Joined: Sep 01, 2002 Posts: 177 Location: Tx

Hey i thought i would go ahead and open this can up i would like to try to keep this thread spoiling the film if it is possible.

I for one thought it should have been longer showing more of skywalkers path. I did see a few characters that would be cool to see poserized.
The movie did sorta take care of the loose ends in a way.
what are your thoughts about the movie?

Hasdrubal

Anakin converted to the dark side much too quickly. I would have liked a more in depth explanation from Palpatine of what additional powers the dark side gives. The established pattern of the apprentices killing their masters doesn't seem to make it very enticeing. The only advantages he suggested were that one did not always have to act in a selfless way, and that one could act on emotions more readily. I remember Obi-Wan telling Luke to "Reach out with his feelings" during sabre practice on the Falcon. There are similarities to both sides of the force. A master can tell whatever truths he needs from a certain point of view.

Toward the end of the movie I began to think the quick conversion made more sense due to Anakin's lack of maturity. Now that I'm older, I'm less capable of remembering my own confused thought process from my own youth. The young hero characters of Luke and Anakin just seem like stupid boys to me now. It's unfortunate that we will probably never see how Luke's personality evolved as he aged.

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itisitex · Forum Member Joined: Sep 01, 2002 Posts: 177 Location: Tx

As far as action goes i agree i think this was the best one of the new episodes but it was lacking in the story development. I realize there is a war going on and things happen fast. And there is no problem speeding up the passage of time or slowing it down as long as it is done nicely.

Ratteler · Forum Member Joined: Jun 10, 2002 Posts: 548 Location: NYC

Well, as far as I'm concerned, all the Star Wars Films handled the pasage of time badly.

Look at A New Hope. Luke gets some droids, meet's crazy old Obi Wan, and looses his family, goes to Mos Isley, finds Han, gets ONE friggin lesson on using the force to block the training orb. See's Ben get killd after rescuing the princess and gets away with enough time to find a weakness and blow up the Death Star.

How many days does this take? It seem like one to me. We KNOW it can't be... but there are absolutly NO visual clues to the passage of time.

Empire was a little better, but Jedi seemed to be a one day affair too.

It's like Lucas is trying to borrow from Greek theater where the story all happenes in the same day, but since he can't do it witht he narrative he just ignores the problem.

I think after 6 movies we just have to accept the poor passage of time a stylistic thing to Star Wars.

Hasdrubal

I can think of one thing they could have done to improve the scene which included Palpitine revieling his evil and Anakin's conversion. If a mind meld between Palpatine and Anakin had been written into the script, the quick conversion to the dark side would have been more beleivable with the limited amount of time per scene that Lucas had to work with.

The rest of the movie moves at a break-neck pace, but it's just that one scene that doesn't work right dramatically. It's taken years of waiting for that scene through 3 movies, and the whole incident moves by before you can blink.

vulcanis · Forum Member Joined: Jan 14, 2002 Posts: 128

At least we received an answer to who the father of Darth Vader was. Now granted, it was given in code, lol.
As far as a potential mind meld goes... I'm sure that this was avoided for 2 reasons. Most importantly, it would have been viewed as potential coersion. Anakin had to be seen making the decision freely, if unwisely, to betray the Jedi. Secondly, it would've been slammed as too "Trek"-ish.
While I agree it was too rushed (one of my complaints, as well), the groundwork has been there from the beginning. Palpatine's cloaked revelation reinforces that even more.

Hasdrubal · Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject:

You're right, a meld wouldn't have been the best plot device. If it had been handled like the end of "2001: A Space Odessey" they might have gotten away with it.

Episode 3 is still a great classic movie, but it's not satisfying enough to see over and over again like the old ones. It did answer what the meaning of "bringing balance to the force" was, but didn't pose any new questions.

I was watching the end of Episode 6 again the other day. I wonder if the Ewoks ate any of the dead Imperial Troops during or after big victory celebration.
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finister · Forum Member Joined: Oct 21, 2002 Posts: 94

For me, the concept of Anakin going from good to evil should have been the focus of all three of the last 3 movies. I agree that it felt very rushed showing most of that transformation all within one movie.

It's worth seeing again just to catch all the CGI stuff I missed the first time.

I liked "Revenge of the Sith" best of the last 3 movies (I, II and III)...it's very entertaining with a lot of action but the dramatic elements just fell flat for me.

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I really enjoyed the way this episode tied in with the others, especially the cameo by Tarkin and the scenes in the Tantive corridors.

That ebing said, my brother in law and I discussed this after seeing it and we both felt that the entirety of Lil' Orphan Ani's story (i.e. Episode I) should have been done as a 30 minute first act and the main storyline of Episode II should have been the primary plot of Episode I. Then The first half of Episode III should really have been Episode II, with the second half of III should have been expanded to be its own film. And that way the Wookiees could have been given the screen time they deserve

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Sharby

GhostofMacbeth · Forum Member Joined: Sep 21, 2001 Posts: 615

I mentioned it someplace else but I really hated the light switch to the dark side *click* "I am evil, kill everything"

I also think that the Wookies were badly used. it was only short and really only served to seperate the jedi and get a CHewy cameo. It was pretty lame. Plus the planet really didn't feel like it should to me. For anyone that has played Knights of the Old Republic, I thought that that captured the planet much better. I just played that level so I didn't have any preconceived notions except what I read but it fit sooooo much better.

I also really didn't like some of the wire-fu-ish Jedi stuff.

itisitex · Forum Member Joined: Sep 01, 2002 Posts: 177 Location: Tx

I will most likely go see it again just so i can focus on all the cgi i didn't notice the shake when the clones took off thier helmets.I will have to catch an early show though.

Mizrael · Forum Member Joined: Jan 18, 2004 Posts: 258

Ok, for those of us who "Missed" that secret code, just where did they allude to the father of Anikin?!? Who could have known? His mother was dead so who else could possibly know?

Sharby

when Sidious and Anakin were at the theatre discussing his old master Darth something the Wise, where he was able to create life by gathering the miticlorines, in the first movie if you remember the little brat was "imaculately concepted", that is if I remember everything correctly, so put 2 and 2 together and you get 4, but my math isn't very good so it might be 3..??