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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject: V for Vendetta flick and Alan Moore
I saw an interview with Alan Moore a couple of days ago where he was talking about the movie of V for Vendetta and the way Hollywood has mistreated his stories in the past.
He said at first he'd been happy enough to put his name to the films and collect the royalties, even though he was always disappointed at how they'd mangled them. He also said V was the last straw, however, and now he'd decided to stop them using his name to promote it and this meant he couldn't collect any money but it was worth it.
Sure, this shows the depth of the man's integrity, but I don't think I'd be noble enough to make a gesture like that. Then again, I'm poverty-stricken and whilst I'm not sure of Mr Moore's financial status, I'm pretty sure it outclasses mine.
I'll probably see the film, though- if only to see the Houses of Parliament get destroyed, which is surely a piece of wish-fulfilment for any English citizen lately.
Besides all that, the series was partly one of Alan's several protests against Thatcher's Britain, which we're not in any more. At the time, he spoke about leaving Britain, but then he never did. It'll be interesting to see how much of the revolutionary spirit remains. Any Hollywood film in which a revolutionary is the hero has got to be worth a look.
It's hard to guess how the film stands up until we see it, but I'm looking forward to it.
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: V for Vendetta flick and Alan Moore
My avatar is actually much better looking than I am.
Although the original V was written for Thatcher's Britain, I do think that maybe it'll have some more relevance again, especially now it transpires that New Labour is really Old Tory, only more right-wing.
I thought it was interesting that John Hurt was cast for the bad guy, given that he was Smith in 1984. Surely no coincidence.
New Labour more right-wing than the Tories? They might be disappointing, but There-is-no-such-thing-as-society, Tax-the-poor-liberate-the-rich, Trickle-down-economics, Poll-tax, Starve-the-miners, Beat-the-whingers, Let's-have-a-war-at-election-time Thatcherite Conservatives they ain't.
I know, Tony joined a war, but he didn't start it, he didn't wrap it in the flag, and he didn't whip up a spirit of Gotcha! As far as I saw, anyway.
The difference might be only the difference between trying however clumsily to do the right thing, and not giving a toss about fairy concepts like right and wrong.
Damn, politics.
IMP. _________________ RIVER: skin on the outside. First chapter FREE from www.ianmpalmer.com
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: V for Vendetta flick and Alan Moore
Well, I'm only talking in bold brush strokes. I don't like the way our liberties are under severe threat, which is a very right-wing move. Having said that, it weren't all sweetness and light in the Soviet Union either...
Personally, I don't think there's much to choose between them all at the moment. Labour's gone mad, the Tories are trying out Tony Mk 2 and the Lib Dems are in complete disarray since no-one knows who they are anymore.
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: Re: V for Vendetta flick and Alan Moore
Given the spate of recent events, politically speaking - Tessa Jowell, last week's education bill (which only passed because enough Tories got behind it - not enough support from his own party), and the revelations of secret loans for party funding - and I think the current government is beginning to tread more and more closely in the old Tory footsteps.
While some of the basic policies are different, that's not to say that the so-called 'Labour' movement isn't becoming increasingly right-wing: with the increasing erosion of civil liberties through anti-terror laws being used to supress geniune political dissent at party conferences, and anti-social behaviour orders that can be tagged onto someone for anything not covered any specific law, there doesn't seem to be much left of the left in British politics. It wouldn't take a huge leap from here Moore's dystopia.
And incidentally, the original V was written based on the 'obvious' premise that Labour would win the 1982 election. Because of their determination to remove nukes from British shores, we were not attacked when the Big One went down. However, after that disaster ad the nuclear winter which followed, there was a need for strong leadership - Norsefire/Fate. The fascists didn't rise from a tory background - they came about as a result of a Labour government.
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:54 am Post subject: Re: V for Vendetta flick and Alan Moore
We did indeed, Palmers... I like what I've seen of River, by the way (only 1st issue, cos cant' afford the later ones).
On my end, the plot for the continuing series I had in mind has thickened, almost to the point where I'm ready to sit down and actually SCRIPT something(!!)... the horror anthology has taken a side-step, and is now being used as the basis for my horror theatre company...
RIVER's in a new edition, with a sequel, and in print - but not available yet. I'll be releasing it in a month or two, along with a LOAD of other stuff. I don't think it'll be cheaper, so it's bigger instead.
IMP. _________________ RIVER: skin on the outside. First chapter FREE from www.ianmpalmer.com
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