The comic diva swimsuit issue!

ArgoForg · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:15 pm Post subject:

Good technique, Jje. I'll have to give that a try, especially with my Vue pics... although I tend to run over a lot of my final-render stuff with a small smudge/blur brush all over the place to clean up problem areas. If I can get a render with very little postwork needed, I'm happy... I've very seldom had a render with no postwork necessary. Is that essentially the same technique as increasing the shadow map size in Poser?

Hilltech, I'll echo everyone else... the second pic you uploaded showed some seriously marked improvement. And I agree with Dana, some minor blur/smudge postwork on those torn joints would do you a world of good.

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jje · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:26 pm Post subject:

Yes like incresing the shadow map or setting soft shadows in Vue.
This way is more selective and reduces rendertime considerably.

But but bit posting an image is my favorite part.

Dana3d2k · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 11:57 am Post subject:

For me, when I do feel frisky, I just run the soft brush along the shadows..so they don't look sharp..creates a neat effect;)
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Cavalier · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 9:29 pm Post subject:

(inspecific enuf for ya?)

Yessss JJE, inspecific enough. Since we are talking postwork, I should let you all know I like to do as little Postwork as possible. My fav part is building a scene and rendering it.

Dana3d2k · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 1:00 am Post subject:

As far as post work goes, I am into it. Whether it is doing hair, fixing joints, correcting colors, or other such things that will make my artwork look like cr^p. However, depending on the situation, depends on what sort of post work I do. In such cases, I do contrast in the last few updated pages of heresy to give the dark and eerie feeling..even though people may feel it is a tad darker then they would like. I am not a superhero genre comic, I am a horror/mature/scare you out of your wits genre.

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Cavalier · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 8:30 am Post subject:

The Dark Noir you have going on in Destruction fits the mood perfectly Dana, and like I've said other places here in the forum, I am devouring every new page as soon as it goes up.

But if I can create a render that requires no postwork, then I am more than a happy guy. I prefer to do postwork when it comes to captions, power signatures and other non-fixing techniques.

It's not that I hate post work, but I am an impatient guy when it comes to my work and I want to see a complete render as soon as possible.. 8)

Dana3d2k · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 8:40 am Post subject:

Woohoo! WE have officially reached 200 replies!

Yea, I know some people don't like doing, and on the same note, I don't like adding captions:) Every attempt I made to add captions in the beginning of Heresy ended up being a complete nightmare, so I stuck with "Write your text in html"

Cause in order to make Text look good I either have to go to gif (blah) or png (blah for dialups).

Dana
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Cavalier · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:09 am Post subject:

As far as I know we are doing jpeg format for the comics and the captions and word ballons look pretty damn good. If you want the way of doing them, just ask Mark, he's the specialist.

Dana3d2k · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:10 am Post subject:

Without some compression, that going to be a mighty big file..and from some of my stuff, everytime I did do it my way, their would be artifacts around the text

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Cavalier · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:15 am Post subject:

Well our stuff looks pretty clean, and they look like the Comic word balloons and it's all done with the polygonal lasso in Photoshop and some color changes...

Dana3d2k · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:20 am Post subject:

Cool.. me personally, I prefer the HTML method as it gives me ability to write it like a novel.

But that just me.

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ArgoForg · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:56 am Post subject:

To each their own. ^_^

But yeah, like Cav says, our pics are jpegs and are barely compressed (usually saved at 10, 11, or 12 setting in Photoshop 6) and what loss and compression we may have has flit right past my eyes. Usually our pics run from 200-400 K, and the comic pages themselves may run more, and so may need slight compression (say, 95% integrity) to drop them to the 400-500 K range for dialup users.

Course, it may be bad if someone wanted to save the picture and print it, seeing that it's saved at 72 dpi, but if they're saving and trying to print it to redistribute it without our permission, they deserve color globs and lousy compression. ^_^
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ArgoForg · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:00 am Post subject:

Oh, and Cav....

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But if I can create a render that requires no postwork, then I am more than a happy guy.
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Lose that idea, man. Ain't no such animal. ^_^
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Cavalier · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:15 am Post subject:

A MAN CAN DREAM!!!! I TELL YA! A MAN CAN DREAM!!!!

Remedy · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 12:54 pm Post subject:

*Grasps her coffee cup with white knuckles and takes a good solid hit of her inhalor to smooth out the asthma attack from laughing her butt off...*

WOW

After more than an hour reading and laughing so hard I was nearly crying I am FINALLY CAUGHT UP!

Thank you for the invite! Now... well, I don't know how to render anything in Bryce or Vue (I think a friend has it on HIS computer?!! Wonder if he'll import my figures and render it for me???WOOP!)

Now as for printing... you want double sided 4 colour? Wow no wonder the cost is up there. but the quantity is good so you're getting a good deal. Digital output like Firey and Cyclone might noe be much cheaper honestly, and I know that in the past some colour copiers can't do double sided.

I used to work for Kino's as their Custom Print Consultant, so if no one minds I will share my evil experience of the print industry with you.

For outputting a general rule is this: the DPI of the finished product will be approximatedly HALF of what you saved it as. For example if you are making your image 300 DPI it will print at 175 or whatever (not good at math). When I output my work I make it 600 or 1200 MINIMUM because anything less looks like utter poop in print.

My step father (who lives in Seattle) is a printer by trade, and he recently told me that TIFF format is the best for printing. Yes, yes I know the file size is freaking HUGE, but that's what he told me. JPG's are just not suitable for output.

Also for your layout, be aware that the printer needs a MINIMUM of half an inch or so at the edges unless you want a 4 sided bleed and are willing to have horrific cutting expences. The actual press needs some room to grab the paper you see, and that's why that space is nessessary.

Now my mum and step dad DO own a Firey output. Keep in mind that it is PHOTOCOPYING and not real printer ink. At Kinko's we used to do calendars... like so: the printer printed the dates and calendar part on one side with proper printer's ink etc, then we would colour copy the client's photographs on the blank other side. We would then bind the calendars with the choice of binding (coil, comb etc)

Part of the costs of the printer is all the labour. Cutting a 4 sided bleed is expensive because it takes a hellish amount of waste. Binding is also a time and labour consuming job that has to be done by a machine operator.

OK, I'm done. Now that you are all staring at me in horror, I will get off my soap box and laugh along with you about the hijinx of all these lovely characters! YAY!

Oh oh oh oh ! Remedy is also of irish descent AND wiccan as well... so I am thinking she and Kayla will get along REALLY well! We should have an irish pride shot! Wheeeee! A wearing of the green and so on! What FUN! Remedy is the short plumpish well build irish version as opposed to the whippet slim and tough as nails irishy type... hee hee hee.

I'm having a hell-a time getting the freaking 'spandex' morphs to work on V3! I want Rem to look more like she's wearing a 'suit' rather than have her scarey cleavage quite so deliniated. I may have to tweak her body too... want her short but well proportioned and having a nasty time of it LOL.

Now that my post is the Great Canadian Novel I will bow out and run away, refreshing obsessively every three seconds looking for humourous replies! *drool*froth(snort*

What, ME being complusive? Noooooooo! *rolls eyes* LAUGHTER*

Grins,

Remedy aka Amy

PS: OMG these renderings are... WOW! *falls off her chair*
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